NAMM 2013-Prophet 12
Il synth per definizione, la storia della tastiera....
Re: NAMM 2013-Prophet 12
by vaivavalo » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:28 am
....................pochi commenti...una macchina che farà storia, non c'è dubbio!!! Per ora, il NAMM 2013 l'ha vinto questa BOMBA!!!
Re: NAMM 2013-Prophet 12
by gioj93 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:19 am
Ragazzi mi dispiace deludervi ma a quanto pare si tratta di oscillatori digitali e filtri analogici
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Re: NAMM 2013-Prophet 12
by Leonardo » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:32 am
Dove hai preso questa info deludente?
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Re: NAMM 2013-Prophet 12
by gioj93 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:33 am
Su un forum della dsi a cui sono iscritto, vi incollo le specifiche (almeno secondo loro)
Quick specs:
12 voices
4 Oscillators per voice capable of classic and complex waveforms
Low alias digital oscillators of several flavors: tri, saw, pulse, sine, noise and 4 wavetable based sources
Oscillator params: FM, AM, Sync, Level, Pitch (Coarse+Fine), extended slop algorithm, shape, shape mod/pulsewidth
Sub oscillator
Shape Mod/Pulsewidth control changes based on oscillator type:
Pulse and Tri - Pulsewidth control
Saw - Supersaw effect (note: not complete in NAMM units)
Noise - Pink on the left, White in the middle, Blue/Violet on the right
Wavetables - Blends between 3 different waveforms, one on the left, one in the middle, one on the right
Post FX section, fully analog signal path (no DAC/ADC converstion) with digital effects summed with analog signal at wet/dry points
Analog VCA and panning
Analog stereo distortion
Analog resonant Lowpass filter per voice
Analog resonant Highpass filter per voice
All analog parameters are modulated at >11kHz sample rate
Digital FX 'Character' Section:
NOTE: Effects are not finalized (besides Drive) and will be improved and possible changed before release
Air - High shelf with soft clipping
Girth - Low shelf with saturation
Hack - Bit Crush
Decimate - Sample Rate Reduction
Drive - Overdrive/Saturation
Tons of modulation:
4 LFOs up to 4kHz rate, sync and multiple shapes
4 Envelopes - VCA, Filter and 2 Auxiliary. ADSR plus delay
16 Mod slots - Oscillators can be used as sources for FM control of a wide range of params
Two Pressure- and Position-sensitive touch faders for added control in addition to the pitch and mod wheels
4 Delay lines
Can sync to internal arp clock or to external MIDI clock
~1 second buffer for each delay line
Amount, Feedback, and Rate controls on front panel
Delay time ranges from reverb and flanger effects to a looper with feedback turned to max
Delay algorithms not finalized in NAMM units and will be improved by release
Tuned Feedback
Expanded Arpeggiator modes
Quick mod section:
example: holding 'mod source' and hitting 'Osc 1' creates a new mod with 'Osc 1' as the source and brings up the screen. Then holding 'mod destination' and moving the 'Air' encoder assigns the destination to 'Air'. Simple!
Sorting of mods by slot number, mod source or mod destination which includes the fixed mods (destination params for LFOs and Envelopes) to quickly deconstruct programs. Makes it very easy to see what mods are affecting what parameters at a glance
Playlist mode for queueing up programs to use in a set for quick 1-button access to quickly load presets. 4 Playlists with 10 presets plus an extended playlist mode if more complicated setups are needed
Quick specs:
12 voices
4 Oscillators per voice capable of classic and complex waveforms
Low alias digital oscillators of several flavors: tri, saw, pulse, sine, noise and 4 wavetable based sources
Oscillator params: FM, AM, Sync, Level, Pitch (Coarse+Fine), extended slop algorithm, shape, shape mod/pulsewidth
Sub oscillator
Shape Mod/Pulsewidth control changes based on oscillator type:
Pulse and Tri - Pulsewidth control
Saw - Supersaw effect (note: not complete in NAMM units)
Noise - Pink on the left, White in the middle, Blue/Violet on the right
Wavetables - Blends between 3 different waveforms, one on the left, one in the middle, one on the right
Post FX section, fully analog signal path (no DAC/ADC converstion) with digital effects summed with analog signal at wet/dry points
Analog VCA and panning
Analog stereo distortion
Analog resonant Lowpass filter per voice
Analog resonant Highpass filter per voice
All analog parameters are modulated at >11kHz sample rate
Digital FX 'Character' Section:
NOTE: Effects are not finalized (besides Drive) and will be improved and possible changed before release
Air - High shelf with soft clipping
Girth - Low shelf with saturation
Hack - Bit Crush
Decimate - Sample Rate Reduction
Drive - Overdrive/Saturation
Tons of modulation:
4 LFOs up to 4kHz rate, sync and multiple shapes
4 Envelopes - VCA, Filter and 2 Auxiliary. ADSR plus delay
16 Mod slots - Oscillators can be used as sources for FM control of a wide range of params
Two Pressure- and Position-sensitive touch faders for added control in addition to the pitch and mod wheels
4 Delay lines
Can sync to internal arp clock or to external MIDI clock
~1 second buffer for each delay line
Amount, Feedback, and Rate controls on front panel
Delay time ranges from reverb and flanger effects to a looper with feedback turned to max
Delay algorithms not finalized in NAMM units and will be improved by release
Tuned Feedback
Expanded Arpeggiator modes
Quick mod section:
example: holding 'mod source' and hitting 'Osc 1' creates a new mod with 'Osc 1' as the source and brings up the screen. Then holding 'mod destination' and moving the 'Air' encoder assigns the destination to 'Air'. Simple!
Sorting of mods by slot number, mod source or mod destination which includes the fixed mods (destination params for LFOs and Envelopes) to quickly deconstruct programs. Makes it very easy to see what mods are affecting what parameters at a glance
Playlist mode for queueing up programs to use in a set for quick 1-button access to quickly load presets. 4 Playlists with 10 presets plus an extended playlist mode if more complicated setups are needed
Kurzweil K2600 full expanded, Kurzweil PC361, DSI Mopho, Korg microKorg, Korg monotron
Re: NAMM 2013-Prophet 12
by Caligari » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:38 am
Mi sembrava che costasse un po' poco :/
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Re: NAMM 2013-Prophet 12
by gioj93 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:50 am
Aspettiamo info ufficiali prima di sparare
sta di fatto che neanche sul sito ufficiale si parla di analog puro, di solito quando è così ci tengono a sottolineare questa cosa
... e in ogni caso evitiamo i pregiudizi dovuti alle presunte specifiche e basiamoci sul suono
ricordate che per il resto è quasi tutto analogico tranne il delay (credo)



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Re: NAMM 2013-Prophet 12
by TheGreyMaster » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:13 pm
A me sembra che suoni da paura...
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Re: NAMM 2013-Prophet 12
by Ago » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:37 pm
Infatti, quando un oscillatore suona bene, suona bene. "Eh, ma gli oscillatori analogici..."
il Virus è tutto digitale.
Sbam.
Non c'è altro da aggiungere
il Virus è tutto digitale.
Sbam.
Non c'è altro da aggiungere

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Re: NAMM 2013-Prophet 12
by Leonardo » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:39 pm
Ago wrote:Infatti, quando un oscillatore suona bene, suona bene. "Eh, ma gli oscillatori analogici..."
il Virus è tutto digitale.
Sbam.
Non c'è altro da aggiungere
si anche il v-synth però che c' entra? Sono 2 cose diverse. Gli oscillatori analogici suonano DIVERSI, meglio o peggio va a gusto e all' esigenza
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Re: NAMM 2013-Prophet 12
by Ago » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:42 pm
Se sai come suona un Virus, sai che quegli oscillatori digitali possono competere con quelli di un Phatty 
Poi io sono il primo a favore dell'analogico, se escludiamo il Virus non so quanti synth digitali possano piacermi...

Poi io sono il primo a favore dell'analogico, se escludiamo il Virus non so quanti synth digitali possano piacermi...
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